astra ecotec turbo it or not

[METAR]

i have gone place to place for help and advice

i have the 1.8 16v ecotec astra recently the cam pulley came loose and timing jumped alot basically the motor needs complete overall so decided to convert it. living in small town there not alot of people willing to work on this motor. found a place he qoute me 15 000 for the internals only for turbo charge ( does this seem right?) he talks about increasing it to a 2.0 aswell and boosting it to 1.0 bar

it will be a everyday car but the advantage of a small town is work is 3km away. i need power that will go with the look im planning for the car. but first wanna do the motor ( rather drive a car looking like a donkey car goes like a ferrari than driving a car looking like a ferrari and drives like a donkey car... you know what i mean?) if anyone want to see what im planning message me.

please guys i need this advice to get the best out of it.

[vwrabbitgti]

would love to know wat your planing , you can mail me here vwrabbitgti@webmail.co.za


as to converting your ecotech to turbo:


you can go for the turbo route as the ecotech's are very turbo friendly and can handle decent boost , depending on wat power you want to make you can choose your setup , you can get decent power out of a low boost setup with standard internals or if you want over 200kw then you must opt for low compression pistons with steel rods like maybe fitting c20let mahle forged pistons they can handle up to 300kw as for the rods too , but you could also get h-beam steel rods and some decent wiseco forged pistons the can handle between 600kw -700kw but you can only get this power with the right feuling and water/meth injection


so for met to give you correct info on your setup you need to tel me wat you want exacly , and also you gona need a tuner to tune your ride if you go for big power figures cos you gona need a managment system and as you say its a small town , find out if that guy has done it before

if i was you make sure he has alot of experience in the tuner department anders kan hy mar loop slaap , want dan gan jou motor blaas

[vwrabbitgti]

would love to know wat your planing , you can mail me here vwrabbitgti@webmail.co.za


as to converting your ecotech to turbo:


you can go for the turbo route as the ecotech's are very turbo friendly and can handle decent boost , depending on wat power you want to make you can choose your setup , you can get decent power out of a low boost setup with standard internals or if you want over 200kw then you must opt for low compression pistons with steel rods like maybe fitting c20let mahle forged pistons they can handle up to 300kw as for the rods too , but you could also get h-beam steel rods and some decent wiseco forged pistons the can handle between 600kw -700kw but you can only get this power with the right feuling and water/meth injection


so for met to give you correct info on your setup you need to tel me wat you want exacly , and also you gona need a tuner to tune your ride if you go for big power figures cos you gona need a managment system and as you say its a small town , find out if that guy has done it before

if i was you make sure he has alot of experience in the tuner department anders kan hy mar loop slaap , want dan gan jou motor blaas

before you or someone understands wrong , thats wat the pistons and rods can handle , your motor obviously cant handle so much but it is best to have those strong internals aspecialy when turbo'ing

[METAR]

i want max power out of it, even thinking of getting the 2.2 16v ecotec and do the turbo route on that and keep the 1.8 standard and as a back up. whats your opinion on this? im busy building a website of the car as soon as its published ill send the url.

thanks for your reply much appriciated

[STREETRACER]

were do you stay bud? Venom racing will sort you out with the best advice and excellent work and prices!

[METAR]

East London for now

[STREETRACER]

East London for now

I can give you my cousins details he is E.L , sure he can point you in the right way! he build a mean turbo golf but sure he is connected with the builders and tuners in your area..
when you say for now are you planning to move?

[METAR]

i dont know when ill be moving but yes ill be moving when i get the transfer but the speed HQ is doing things i might stil be in this one horse town till end of the year. might go to Lanseria or kempton park or Pe, but gotta go where the work wants me.

[vwrabbitgti]

hey bud , if you want to go for max power then you must go 2.0l dont go 2.2l as the 2.2l is beter for a n/a setup , if you can rather go for the superbos c20xe head the red top (called red top because of the red plug cover on the tappet cover) , this head is designed purily for performance , the ecotech heads are designed green friendly and economy and so forth because of global warming anyways , for the most power i recomend go red top c20xe head also a c2oxe block if possible then get your hands on some scat steel h - beam conrods and a set of je or wiseco pistons ask for c20let pistons , get the block o-ringed and ingineered according to the pistons also get the block parts balanced , you can even get the new pistons pocketed slightly more to drop the compression even more , then your block is done

for head work your standard valves are finebut you can get stainles ones if you want to pay that cash , also gasflow and port the head , you can go for a set of c20xe cams as theyr the best for turbo setups


cant give you prices of these though cos they vary from here where i am and where you are , that setup could get you up to 350kw with water/meth injection

oh ja sory for the late reply.....lol

[Savage-wp]

I would definitely go with the 2l superboss motor. these motors are extremely strong and make awesome turbo power. Look for the Coscast stamp on the cylinder head. Fit a set of forged pistons and rods, I would recommend Wiseco pistons and Pauter rods. O-ring the block and use ARP head studs to bolt the head on. I am making over 400kw in my Opel TS, with gas. the motor has been running for years now.Build it right and it will last. and make sure you run a decent management system and have it tuned by a good tuner.

[vwrabbitgti]

you wil not just need arp head studs you wil need the arp crank and conrod bolts aswel , and i wil recomend the best managment for and opel motor is the msx mangment made locally , you can source that from proffessor , the managment is based on the opel motor it has many feutures and can handle all extras even has the knock sensor

[METAR]

hey bud , if you want to go for max power then you must go 2.0l dont go 2.2l as the 2.2l is beter for a n/a setup , if you can rather go for the superbos c20xe head the red top (called red top because of the red plug cover on the tappet cover) , this head is designed purily for performance , the ecotech heads are designed green friendly and economy and so forth because of global warming anyways , for the most power i recomend go red top c20xe head also a c2oxe block if possible then get your hands on some scat steel h - beam conrods and a set of je or wiseco pistons ask for c20let pistons , get the block o-ringed and ingineered according to the pistons also get the block parts balanced , you can even get the new pistons pocketed slightly more to drop the compression even more , then your block is done

for head work your standard valves are finebut you can get stainles ones if you want to pay that cash , also gasflow and port the head , you can go for a set of c20xe cams as theyr the best for turbo setups


cant give you prices of these though cos they vary from here where i am and where you are , that setup could get you up to 350kw with water/meth injection

oh ja sory for the late reply.....lol

mmm i see, what you mean but i got a 2.2 through a contact for next to nothing, so now i got the 2.2 what should i do with it already been stripped down to the block

[vwrabbitgti]

sory for late reply dont come on much !


if i was you make it a 2.4 / 2.5 and run a n/a setup , ive seen motors in that form runing far over 200kw at the wheels , look at headzone they got a 2.4 motor with throttles , high comp pistons / rods /arp bolts / head flowed , ported cams exetra , they runing i think something like 250/260kw at the wheels , and thats impresive power for a n/a , the rod stroke and bore stroke dont match up and as proved by some people the motor wouldnt be a good setup but a few people have built these motors and have never had problem hence the problem you cant turbo but runing it n/a it works althoug some people say it wont , a bud of mine is gona build a 2.4 now and is gona try and go to the max , when its done i wil send u specs and dyno rezults , another is damion devaal's corsa , he is runing a 2.4 c20xe red top moter thats the superboss motor made to a 2.4 and as i recal hes got smashing results but cant remember the power figures , luc lukesi built his motor for him , luc also has a white corsa runing 2.0L n/a 13.5 second qaurter mile at killarney , and then you also proble seen his red corsa hitting 10.7 seconds qaurter mle , its the red speed and sound corsa

anyway would like to know wat you decide on , need anymore info?

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thanks im gonna make few calls and ill let you know

[Neeresh]

Didnt read the entire tread, just the 1st part. Anyway, here's my 2c.
You can buy a complete OPC motor from between 15k to 20k. You dump it in, do pluming, management, zorst and cooler and you'll be ready to boost.